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Post by Anony on Nov 30, 2023 18:18:26 GMT -6
It’s really up to the teams if they pay or not! However the league could have a no import rule The league DOES have a no import rule. If you’re in the league, play by the rules. If you want the rules changed, discuss among the league. |
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Post by groovy1 on Nov 30, 2023 18:55:39 GMT -6
“No Import” isn’t quite correct, since so many players are in Lloydminster. I think that’s the problem, Elk Point, Wainwright, and St Walburg are roughly an hour out of Lloyd. With the exception of Meadow Lake, the rest of the league is Lloydminster suburbs, with “reasonable access” to city players.
“Import” seems to be a SHA term (3 imports plus 2 no imports) in a league administered under Hockey Alberta (6 imports). What is an import in AA Senior? I don’t actually know. But That meridian makes for a change in language.
A? B? C? D?
“Paid” player rule could be interpreted I suppose if one reads the constitution. It refers to allowing some compensation . So, who wants to audit each other’s finances? Don’t think that will happen.
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Post by Come on man on Nov 30, 2023 20:12:18 GMT -6
“No Import” isn’t quite correct, since so many players are in Lloydminster. I think that’s the problem, Elk Point, Wainwright, and St Walburg are roughly an hour out of Lloyd. With the exception of Meadow Lake, the rest of the league is Lloydminster suburbs, with no restrictions as to city players. “Import” seems to be a SHA term in a league administered under Hockey Alberta. That meridian makes for a change in language. A? B? C? D? “Paid” player rule could be interpreted I suppose if one reads the constitution. It refers to allowing some compensation . So, who wants to audit each other’s finances? Don’t think that will happen. |
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Post by Come on man on Nov 30, 2023 20:13:51 GMT -6
You should probably learn the league rules. Other teams have restrictions about where they can draw from, it isn't a free for all.
Are there a couple other suspect teams? For sure, but Walburg pushed the limits every year and this year they went too far.
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Post by hornyelk on Nov 30, 2023 20:43:16 GMT -6
Walburg didn’t push the rules. They’ve played by the constitution Other teams have pushed the rules trying to beat them, being caught, with no repercussions. Past or present executive from this league, if they wanna hold accountability, they can’t decide on that from year to year and what they chose. That’s where the problem lies and nobody in that league can deny it (if they do…they’re lying…like they all do)
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Post by groovy1 on Nov 30, 2023 20:58:30 GMT -6
Come on Man. Maybe I didn’t make myself clear. Closer to Lloyd, fewer questions asked is all I was sayin. But yes you’re right there is a six player import limit in AA Senior.
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Post by Come on man on Nov 30, 2023 22:46:01 GMT -6
Walburg didn’t push the rules. They’ve played by the constitution Other teams have pushed the rules trying to beat them, being caught, with no repercussions. Past or present executive from this league, if they wanna hold accountability, they can’t decide on that from year to year and what they chose. That’s where the problem lies and nobody in that league can deny it (if they do…they’re lying…like they all do) Well I guess all of the other teams thought they pushed the rules.. |
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Post by johnnywhitehog on Nov 30, 2023 22:49:12 GMT -6
All the other teams sound like a bunch of babies taking their ball and going home when things don’t go their way.
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Post by Blah blah on Nov 30, 2023 23:26:18 GMT -6
David Dziurzynski worked for Graham Murray (Hillmond). Graham Murray assumed the Dziurzynski’s were playing in Hillmond. This was public knowledge as last March, it was stated on this form that the Dziurzynski’s were going to Hillmond for the 2023-24 season. This came from people in Hillmond. David quit working for Graham before the season started, for a career job. This was also around the same time they realized the Dziurzynski’s weren’t playing there. This is where Graham started his work. One thing we’ve learnt, he is as spineless off the ice, as he is on it (how many suspensions has he taken vs Walburg?) The league told Walburg to get rid of the Dziurzynski’s. They didn’t because they felt they were following the same rules all the other teams. So once Graham did all his dirty work (and it was easy to get everyone on board to vote out the class of the league) the decision was made. After being voted out, Walburg made a proposal to drop the Dziurzynski’s (which they were told to do by league president and several teams) then questions abound “why is Walburg dropping them if they’re not guilty of paying?”. That is where things get pretty stupid. It shows you how narrow minded these teams are. When Walburg asked if the Dziurzynski would have went to Hillmond would this even be brought up? Graham Murray actually said in the league meeting “no because we don’t pay”. You can’t make this shit up in this league! Chris Slauenwhite, former backup for the Eagles jumped ship to Hillmond and spread false lies. He told them each banner costed $20,000. Well Chris, it’s probably not far off because after you pay ice fees to the arena board, reffing, registration, sticks, etc, guess where the total gets close to I want a liter of Cola Farva? The Monday Nooner was another factor. Their bias towards Wainwright and Lashburn and their spreading of rumours had serious implications in this matter and threw gas on the fire. I actually heard a lawyer was contacted because of the rumours the Nooner spread to help Wainwright and Lashburn. Everyone in this league knows they can’t beat Walburg so they had to boot them. The amount of dirt the team received from players in this league was mind blowing: Wainwright player messaged a player and said how much Kitscoty and Vermillion were offering. A team in another league offered money to Eagles players and said he’d give all the dirt on Lashburn and Hillmond. Walburg got a first hand message about Hillmond offering a high caliber player money. Lashburn was caught red handed a few years ago offering Walburg players money, proof was given to every team and the league did NOTHING. Last year Onion Lakes top line asked Walburg and Hillmond for money, both declined and they travelled double the distance for “free” to Lashburn. The now “top teams” have mysteriously started fundraising the past few years and they went from below .500 teams to the top of the league. Again nothing from the league We will leave Paradise Hill alone because they “voted us in” we’ll let you draw your own conclusions on that roster lol The last thing I will leave you with is excerpt 7.3 of the constitution: “All players must be amateur. The word amateur meaning a player who does not receive any financial remuneration, other than out of pocket expenses.” Wow a “non paying league” with it stating in the rules you can reimburse. This league is such a joke ran by a couple clowns (yes Murray Cochrane, time to resign you botched this by admitting you know Paradise Hill and Lashburn are paying and turned your back to it) The old saying goes: if you can’t beat em, vote ‘em out “He told them each banner costed $20,000. Well Chris, it’s probably not far off because after you pay ice fees to the arena board, reffing, registration, sticks, etc,” Paying for sticks? Would this be called compensation? And players getting compensation is against the rules? |
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Post by ppbluesfan24 on Nov 30, 2023 23:34:29 GMT -6
David Dziurzynski worked for Graham Murray (Hillmond). Graham Murray assumed the Dziurzynski’s were playing in Hillmond. This was public knowledge as last March, it was stated on this form that the Dziurzynski’s were going to Hillmond for the 2023-24 season. This came from people in Hillmond. David quit working for Graham before the season started, for a career job. This was also around the same time they realized the Dziurzynski’s weren’t playing there. This is where Graham started his work. One thing we’ve learnt, he is as spineless off the ice, as he is on it (how many suspensions has he taken vs Walburg?) The league told Walburg to get rid of the Dziurzynski’s. They didn’t because they felt they were following the same rules all the other teams. So once Graham did all his dirty work (and it was easy to get everyone on board to vote out the class of the league) the decision was made. After being voted out, Walburg made a proposal to drop the Dziurzynski’s (which they were told to do by league president and several teams) then questions abound “why is Walburg dropping them if they’re not guilty of paying?”. That is where things get pretty stupid. It shows you how narrow minded these teams are. When Walburg asked if the Dziurzynski would have went to Hillmond would this even be brought up? Graham Murray actually said in the league meeting “no because we don’t pay”. You can’t make this shit up in this league! Chris Slauenwhite, former backup for the Eagles jumped ship to Hillmond and spread false lies. He told them each banner costed $20,000. Well Chris, it’s probably not far off because after you pay ice fees to the arena board, reffing, registration, sticks, etc, guess where the total gets close to I want a liter of Cola Farva? The Monday Nooner was another factor. Their bias towards Wainwright and Lashburn and their spreading of rumours had serious implications in this matter and threw gas on the fire. I actually heard a lawyer was contacted because of the rumours the Nooner spread to help Wainwright and Lashburn. Everyone in this league knows they can’t beat Walburg so they had to boot them. The amount of dirt the team received from players in this league was mind blowing: Wainwright player messaged a player and said how much Kitscoty and Vermillion were offering. A team in another league offered money to Eagles players and said he’d give all the dirt on Lashburn and Hillmond. Walburg got a first hand message about Hillmond offering a high caliber player money. Lashburn was caught red handed a few years ago offering Walburg players money, proof was given to every team and the league did NOTHING. Last year Onion Lakes top line asked Walburg and Hillmond for money, both declined and they travelled double the distance for “free” to Lashburn. The now “top teams” have mysteriously started fundraising the past few years and they went from below .500 teams to the top of the league. Again nothing from the league We will leave Paradise Hill alone because they “voted us in” we’ll let you draw your own conclusions on that roster lol The last thing I will leave you with is excerpt 7.3 of the constitution: “All players must be amateur. The word amateur meaning a player who does not receive any financial remuneration, other than out of pocket expenses.” Wow a “non paying league” with it stating in the rules you can reimburse. This league is such a joke ran by a couple clowns (yes Murray Cochrane, time to resign you botched this by admitting you know Paradise Hill and Lashburn are paying and turned your back to it) The old saying goes: if you can’t beat em, vote ‘em out “He told them each banner costed $20,000. Well Chris, it’s probably not far off because after you pay ice fees to the arena board, reffing, registration, sticks, etc,” Paying for sticks? Would this be called compensation? And players getting compensation is against the rules? "...a player who does not receive any financial remuneration, other than out of pocket expenses." Sticks & gas would be an out of pocket expense for the player. |
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Post by St. Walburg Eagle on Nov 30, 2023 23:49:53 GMT -6
Hey everyone it’s me the St. Walburg Eagle. I’m just gonna admit it, I’ve been paying the Dziurzynski brothers $700/per game each. Sorry I was wrong thats against the rules.
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Post by hornyelk on Dec 1, 2023 9:41:08 GMT -6
Ok Graham, nothing like paying players after Marwayne went broke paying those same players you hypocrite . “We don’t pay”
This might be the most liberal run league on planet earth. Guilt kicking in for some teams as they’ve been reaching out to Walburg apologizing.
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Post by Anon1559 on Dec 1, 2023 12:09:10 GMT -6
Does this all just boil down to, it was simply too obvious that Walburg was paying? So teams are allowed to skirt the rules, but only so long as they are discreet about it? Awful look for the league. "You can break the rules but only so long as you hide it well" Does this all just boil down to, it was simply too obvious that Walburg was paying? So teams are allowed to skirt the rules, but only so long as they are discreet about it? Awful look for the league. "You can break the rules but only so long as you hide it well" Well it is next to impossible to police the payment of players in senior hockey. I agree the league ed up the last few years when evidence was brought up and nothing was done at that time. Other than that though, yes it basically is determined by how obvious it is. You cant look at peoples bank accounts so if you are paying a local guy no one is going to notice and most people probably dont even care. Its when guys are driving half way across the country that people start to take notice and wonder….hmm maybe thats more than a single stick or one tank of gas. Let them back in for all i care but Walburg acting like they somehow are not in the wrong at all is definitely horseshit. Maybe the best thing to do is make it a pay to play league but you get one import. Walburg might **** about that too based on how far from Lloyd they are. Maybe the real problem here is that walburg cant stand to be a below average team for a couple years because they have no local talent, so they have to pay to stay relevant. |
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Post by Mr Skeptical on Dec 1, 2023 12:23:34 GMT -6
what a ing joke this league is... show me a team (in any league in the province) that says they aren't paying anyone anything and i'll show you a bunch of liars!
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Post by phillupthecup on Dec 1, 2023 14:01:23 GMT -6
what a ing joke this league is... show me a team (in any league in the province) that says they aren't paying anyone anything and i'll show you a bunch of liars! CRAIK #Kijiji |
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