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Post by zambonidriver on Mar 16, 2023 11:13:29 GMT -6
Hockey Sask sent out the follow up survey to the one sent earlier this year. It provided a list of the feedback from the teams that responded as well.
ORIGINAL SURVEY
Results of original survey -- survey was sent to 97 senior teams and 67 responded (70%) representing 6 senior leagues (55%).
Import changes - A Prov category no changes B Prov category allowed 5 imports, C&D Prov category allowed 4 imports and then get rid of the "Non Import" rule
Yes 64.38% (47 votes)
No 35.62% (26 votes)
doesn't sound like any changes will be happening.
Roster Expansion from 25-30 - League rosters only - increasing total roster capacity from 25-30
Yes 69.86% (51)
No 30.14% (22)
sounds like this change will happen
NEW SURVEY
1. During a player's last year of minor hockey (17 years old) at the U18AA level or below, if they players parents' residence is in a community (or closest to) with a population of greater than 5000 people, the player would be deemed as a U18 Exception for any senior team in the province and no population would be required to be claimed. a senior team can register a max. of 3 "U18 Exceptions"
Yes or No
2. In Categories B,C & D a senior team can only add a max. amount of players currently registered on another senior roster in the province to their team for provincials.
options are 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 or more
3. Would you be in favor of Senior provincials adopting the "Modified Best of three series" similar to what minor/female provincials have done.
Yes or No
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Post by zambonidriver on Mar 16, 2023 11:18:47 GMT -6
honestly can't see anyone being in favor of adopting the modified best of 3. even splitting the gates in a game three thats a lot of money to give up, when you get to a prov. final or semi final. that and missing players could have a huge impact, although if you knew it was going to be this way then you'd schedule accordingly i'd guess.
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Post by cheeseburger on Mar 16, 2023 11:42:07 GMT -6
So almost 65 percent voted in favour of import changes
And they’re not going to change it? That makes sense
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Post by Best of 3 on Mar 16, 2023 12:14:06 GMT -6
You cannot have that modified BS they do in minor hockey... two games, silly end game -> fine for minor hockey parents travelling with their children ... but for Senior Hockey we have to play best of 3.. 3 full games
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Post by bsdfarms on Mar 16, 2023 13:22:03 GMT -6
Modified Best of 3 is more like a best of 2 plus overtime. I think best of 3 makes for better hockey and more gate money. Best of 2 is easier on the schedulers and officiating crew. It’s a toss up
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Post by zambonidriver on Mar 16, 2023 13:57:36 GMT -6
Modified Best of 3 is more like a best of 2 plus overtime. I think best of 3 makes for better hockey and more gate money. Best of 2 is easier on the schedulers and officiating crew. It’s a toss up can you imagine the Prov final between drake and wynyard going 3 games and having to do that modified little mini game... your likely taking 5K gross revenue away from each team, between 50/50 and gate. |
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Post by johnnywhitehog on Mar 16, 2023 14:25:06 GMT -6
Some of the proposed changes make sense. The modified best of 3 is of course awful. But the U18AA will help a lot of teams that are usually short players.
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Post by rr11 on Mar 16, 2023 15:22:23 GMT -6
Hockey Sask sent out the follow up survey to the one sent earlier this year. It provided a list of the feedback from the teams that responded as well. ORIGINAL SURVEYResults of original survey -- survey was sent to 97 senior teams and 67 responded (70%) representing 6 senior leagues (55%). Import changes - A Prov category no changes B Prov category allowed 5 imports, C&D Prov category allowed 4 imports and then get rid of the "Non Import" rule Yes 64.38% (47 votes)
No 35.62% (26 votes) doesn't sound like any changes will be happening. Roster Expansion from 25-30 - League rosters only - increasing total roster capacity from 25-30 Yes 69.86% (51) No 30.14% (22) sounds like this change will happen NEW SURVEY 1. During a player's last year of minor hockey (17 years old) at the U18AA level or below, if they players parents' residence is in a community (or closest to) with a population of greater than 5000 people, the player would be deemed as a U18 Exception for any senior team in the province and no population would be required to be claimed. a senior team can register a max. of 3 "U18 Exceptions" Yes or No 2. In Categories B,C & D a senior team can only add a max. amount of players currently registered on another senior roster in the province to their team for provincials. options are 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 or more 3. Would you be in favor of Senior provincials adopting the "Modified Best of three series" similar to what minor/female provincials have done. Yes or No Interesting results, a few thoughts: -no need to change import rules for provincials, I will keep banging this drum that the import rules as they are work and will allow more teams to enter provincials should they choose...it is quite clear 50% of the senior teams in the province have little to no interest entering despit the import rules favoring them to add players or centers -the modified OT rule can go the way of the dodo bird for senior provincials...that would be awful if it's implemented and I'd bet you'd see teams who usually entered provincials would no longer to spite this rule -roster expansion is a great idea...if only for teams to not be short or run into numbers issues due to guys working, moving away, injuries, etc |
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Post by oilers on Mar 17, 2023 11:09:23 GMT -6
So almost 65 percent voted in favour of import changes And they’re not going to change it? That makes sense probably need 2/3 vote (66.6%) to change. |
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Post by bsdfarms on Mar 31, 2023 10:34:17 GMT -6
Did anyone see the proposed changes in the email yesterday? Looks like only 3 player additions can be made in B, C, and D categories. If they are already playing on another team.
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Post by rr11 on Mar 31, 2023 14:06:26 GMT -6
Did anyone see the proposed changes in the email yesterday? Looks like only 3 player additions can be made in B, C, and D categories. If they are already playing on another team. If that is the case, what is the reason for this proposed change in player additions for B, C and D SHA provincials? |
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Post by zambonidriver on Mar 31, 2023 14:26:02 GMT -6
Did anyone see the proposed changes in the email yesterday? Looks like only 3 player additions can be made in B, C, and D categories. If they are already playing on another team. If that is the case, what is the reason for this proposed change in player additions for B, C and D SHA provincials? I don't understand it honestly, you have teams that have combined in the past due to being really small towns. i don't agree with this at all, and i think it will eliminate some teams from provincials or just force them to go A. |
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Post by rr11 on Mar 31, 2023 14:51:41 GMT -6
If that is the case, what is the reason for this proposed change in player additions for B, C and D SHA provincials? I don't understand it honestly, you have teams that have combined in the past due to being really small towns. i don't agree with this at all, and i think it will eliminate some teams from provincials or just force them to go A. Great minds think alike haha! I was thinking the same thing reading the proposed changes...this will force teams to enter A. The current rules will allow for more teams should they wish to enter...it is clear SHA provincials aren't the be all end all for around 50% of the teams. |
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Post by zambonidriver on Mar 31, 2023 20:25:45 GMT -6
looking at the provincial winners in B,C & D this year, i don't think that any of them added more than 3 players to their rosters, so its not like a team had an unfair advantage? I know Wadena added a couple players, kenaston i think a couple as well. not sure about Kyle.
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Post by hugehorn on Mar 31, 2023 21:57:25 GMT -6
Did anyone see the proposed changes in the email yesterday? Looks like only 3 player additions can be made in B, C, and D categories. If they are already playing on another team. What other proposed changes were in the email? |
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