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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 10:49:15 GMT -6
Post by Pay the man on Mar 21, 2024 10:49:15 GMT -6
Kenaston must be getting some players at low pay most of their roster would get $500 a game in the llhl . Maybe llhl does east west divisions ? Flip Leroy and lanigan from east to west each year ? Too bad Davidson left as they were always real good. I know travel is a big issue but in the llhl this year wadena foam lake and wynyard were the best teams. Pay more for the inconvenience of travel ? Harder to find top end guys too Wasn't there talk somewhere on this forum that Watrous was trying to poach Kenaston's players with money this summer? Maybe loyalty isn't dead and money doesn't rule the senior hockey world. Just shows you, build a winning culture and teams will want to play for you. Not sure you need a new league to develop those qualities. i would expect that Kenaston is paying their guys less than what they could get elsewhere by the fact they are all buddies from Uni, and their previous success would make it an easy decision to stay in Kenaston, and the drive is pretty sweet to... barely a 2 beer jaunt. |
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Post by DoubleDion on Mar 21, 2024 10:49:37 GMT -6
Everybody likes craik geographically but nobody likes the Pillardome
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 11:21:30 GMT -6
Post by rr11 on Mar 21, 2024 11:21:30 GMT -6
Can we all agree that money getting spent on senior hockey isn't going anywhere? To me there is no way to fix that, top players will continue to get top dollar, and teams will continue to spend. The Long Lake League makes no sense geographically. Most players in the league drive from Saskatoon, yet the league voted against Craik joining and said yes to teams like Wynyard, Foam Lake, and Wadena. Evidently the league lost the defending champion Davidson Cyclones because the SVHL made more send geographically. The Long Lake League has generally been known for playing week day games on a consistent bases, a reason why guys like playing in the league (some weekends off). But now teams are asking their players to drive from Saskatoon to Wynyard, Foam Lake, and Wadena during the week and go to work the next day. It's no secret that this league appears to be taking steps backwards year after year. This potential new league is interesting. I think it allows for the main rivalries to stay, all the teams spend money, and all the teams are close enough from Saskatoon. Yes center to center there is long travel, but remember, most guys come from Saskatoon. I was also told that the import rule was 5. Wouldn't that mean that teams could be set up better for Provincial play and not forced to go A? It's easy to make a mockery of this, but at least someone is trying something. I Agree with the early comment that Jessie Mattson and the Winterhawks are one year to late, the SVHL is set up to darn good for teams to leave. There needs to be some incentive to join this league, what could that be? If you guys know what you're talking about, you know that the Long Lake Hockey League's days are numbered, and as someone who plays in the league, I wouldn't hate not going to those east teams any day of the week. The LLHL had their hand forced adding Wynyard, FL and Wadena given as early as the 2017-18 season there was only 6 teams with Wynyard, Drake, Lanigan, Leroy, Watrous and Davisdon + played an interlocking schedule with the now defunct Fort Carlton HL. The 2016-17 season there was only 5 teams in the league with mainstays Drake, Lanigan, Leroy, Watrous and Davisdon. What has hurt the LLHL is Nokomis, Imperial, Simpson no longer exist...they had a very localized league at one time with Craik, Strasbourg and Naicam at times having a team in the LLHL. The SVHL geographic wise is set up so well (the longest drive during my time from Saskatoon was Dodsland and Kyle). It makes complete sense for Davidson and Craik to be in the SVHL...it's a wonder Davidson lasted so long in the LLHL given they were missing out on natural rivals Kenaston and Loreburn + travel wouldn't be as much. Davidson leaving the LLHL hurts the league...a town with a strong senior hockey tradition much like the LLHL mainstays. The LLHL will survive though, they've quite often had a smaller league with 5-7 teams with 8-10 at various times plus mainstays Watrous, Lanigan, Drake and Leroy more often than not have competitive teams + have a good tradition of entering provincials. The LLHL also suffers a bit of a snobbish complex when it comes to their league and I believe have drove teams out due to what they felt was a competitive issue despite geographically being a fit (ie: Strasbourg, Craik). This I say just from previous fan forums and brief discussions with people I know who played/coached in the LLHL, by no means any insider info haha! |
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 11:39:00 GMT -6
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Post by Nicea on Mar 21, 2024 11:39:00 GMT -6
SVHL hit the jackpot last year and got set up perfectly. Ll
LLHL will be fine. It will plug along.
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 12:26:58 GMT -6
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Post by BigDale on Mar 21, 2024 12:26:58 GMT -6
Can confirm that one of the teams mentioned in this “new” league never received an email, and if they did would not consider leaving the SVHL.
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 14:23:04 GMT -6
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Post by New league on Mar 21, 2024 14:23:04 GMT -6
Can confirm that one of the teams mentioned in this “new” league never received an email, and if they did would not consider leaving the SVHL. Some teams didn’t receive an email but they were on the list haha. I think the head honchos are hoping for llhl teams to commit first then ask the valley |
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 14:30:23 GMT -6
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Post by seniorhockey7 on Mar 21, 2024 14:30:23 GMT -6
Saw the email and it was quite interesting. Ten teams no problem! Let’s the get this real super league rolling. Canucks are in. #Nucksnation
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 14:37:20 GMT -6
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Post by longlakesupreme on Mar 21, 2024 14:37:20 GMT -6
Saw the email and it was quite interesting. Ten teams no problem! Let’s the get this real super league rolling. Canucks are in. #Nucksnation How about NO. Blow up the SV for the “Super League”? It shouldn’t, and probably won’t, happen |
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 15:36:24 GMT -6
Post by zambonidriver on Mar 21, 2024 15:36:24 GMT -6
would sure put Wynyard, Wadena and Foam Lake in a crappy situation, especially pulling their players out of Saskatoon
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 16:53:04 GMT -6
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Post by Cha ya right on Mar 21, 2024 16:53:04 GMT -6
Kinda like my asshole, I just can’t see it
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 17:18:26 GMT -6
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Post by Insiderrr on Mar 21, 2024 17:18:26 GMT -6
would sure put Wynyard, Wadena and Foam Lake in a crappy situation, especially pulling their players out of Saskatoon They would be completely screwed. Options would be go to the Sweetland (extremely unlikely they’d get in) the Sask East (Wynyard to Swan Valley is HOW FAR?!?) or convice a few other teams to reform the FLHL like Theodore, Canora, etc. (can’t see it) Long story short, there’s a near zero chance of all this happening. Throw 3 of your league semi finalists and the two teams competing for the Long Lake trophy? Nope. |
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 19:14:10 GMT -6
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Post by Yeh right on Mar 21, 2024 19:14:10 GMT -6
This idea is one year too late. SVHL is set up just about perfectly for all these teams. Nice close travel. Competition is set up very well also - some teams are at the top right now because they have excellent locals but cycles happen and the other teams will rise soon enough. SVHL is not a super high paying league - it’s right in the middle - it’s good competitive hockey with a good mix of locals. It’s the type of hockey Kenaston, Davidson, and Craik are looking for. Not a super high paying league? Cmon now. Kenaston, Eston, Davidson, Craik, Dinsmore… all spend lots lol, are you kidding me. Craik only pays there goalie I’m told they paid less than $3000 for the entire season. And secondly I’m pretty sure Craik wasn’t on Watrous’s email list. |
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 21:37:53 GMT -6
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Post by bsdfarms on Mar 21, 2024 21:37:53 GMT -6
would sure put Wynyard, Wadena and Foam Lake in a crappy situation, especially pulling their players out of Saskatoon Foam and Wadena were part of the Wheatland not very many years ago. I could see them rejoining at some point in the near future |
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Watrous
Mar 22, 2024 5:52:27 GMT -6
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Post by greatcanadian on Mar 22, 2024 5:52:27 GMT -6
Who masterminded this idea? Why the push to restructure?
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Watrous
Mar 22, 2024 6:53:53 GMT -6
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Post by Old dog on Mar 22, 2024 6:53:53 GMT -6
I’ve commented before on the effort some imports put out for the money they get to play ( I assume $). Now here we are shuffling teams around to make it more convenient for the players. Talk of Wynyard foamlake Wadena being left out of a good league because it’s too far from Saskatoon. Not sure if location matters as much as money. Several teams dropped out of Hhl and Qvhl that were close to Regina. Things like week day games , need for weekend off aren’t big deterrents when you can make $1000 tax free on a weekend some guys make close to $20k tax free for a season . That’s close to a mortgage payment on a decent house or car payment on a bmw. I think some teams also provide a team van . What happens when employees start to run the business? Biggest threat to rural teams is lack of kids and the resulting loss of local talent to field a team Can’t pay everyone I don’t think
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