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Watrous
Mar 20, 2024 20:35:45 GMT -6
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Post by SCHL Fan on Mar 20, 2024 20:35:45 GMT -6
Very interesting. I don’t know how the valley teams will feel about this but I suppose we will find out. The SVHL is set up very well right now. Set up well with teams but certainly not with competition. |
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Watrous
Mar 20, 2024 21:03:10 GMT -6
Post by guestt on Mar 20, 2024 21:03:10 GMT -6
looking at competitiveness... you think Allan and Hanley are going to compete with the rosters these other teams have assembled... like kenaston going into hanley? don't think that would work. It looks like the travel is centered around distance from saskatoon... which honestly isn't a bad idea. at least half of the team for a lot of the teams on that list are coming from saskatoon anyways. Ya, I guess if you base it off of where most people are coming from it makes sense. |
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Watrous
Mar 20, 2024 21:59:16 GMT -6
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Post by Local on Mar 20, 2024 21:59:16 GMT -6
Or who cares about being this competitive and cap the imports at 3 or 4 and get rid of these city guys and let’s have local hockey with local players.
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Watrous
Mar 20, 2024 22:37:06 GMT -6
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Post by Felix on Mar 20, 2024 22:37:06 GMT -6
It’s time to organize a province wide super league with geography and leagues of yesteryear being the primary focus for the divisions. Conferences of north and south and play senior into June
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Watrous
Mar 20, 2024 23:47:17 GMT -6
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Post by Deace on Mar 20, 2024 23:47:17 GMT -6
Very interesting. I don’t know how the valley teams will feel about this but I suppose we will find out. The SVHL is set up very well right now. Set up well with teams but certainly not with competition. This idea is one year too late. SVHL is set up just about perfectly for all these teams. Nice close travel. Competition is set up very well also - some teams are at the top right now because they have excellent locals but cycles happen and the other teams will rise soon enough. SVHL is not a super high paying league - it’s right in the middle - it’s good competitive hockey with a good mix of locals. It’s the type of hockey Kenaston, Davidson, and Craik are looking for. |
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Watrous
Mar 20, 2024 23:54:35 GMT -6
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Post by Merrill on Mar 20, 2024 23:54:35 GMT -6
Watrous, Leroy, Lanigan, Drake, Davidson, Kenaston, Rosetown, Loreburn,, Craik and Outlook. Says Central Bitte and Delisle are “options” Looks like he’s trying to set it up exactly like the SVHL. He’s clearly hoping he can sway the East SVHL division to switch to this new league so they can travel closer to Saskatoon instead of to Kyle/Eston/Dinsmore/Beechy |
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 4:50:57 GMT -6
Post by Roy Kent on Mar 21, 2024 4:50:57 GMT -6
Watrous, Leroy, Lanigan, Drake, Davidson, Kenaston, Rosetown, Loreburn,, Craik and Outlook. Says Central Bitte and Delisle are “options” Looks like he’s trying to set it up exactly like the SVHL. He’s clearly hoping he can sway the East SVHL division to switch to this new league so they can travel closer to Saskatoon instead of to Kyle/Eston/Dinsmore/Beechy With the division set up the travel is minimal in the SVHL. Only visit half the teams in the other division. SVHL has 11 healthy established teams plus Lucky Lake. Don’t see anyone jumping ship. And they all have to go at once for it to work. |
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 7:42:59 GMT -6
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Post by Puhleeze on Mar 21, 2024 7:42:59 GMT -6
Set up well with teams but certainly not with competition. This idea is one year too late. SVHL is set up just about perfectly for all these teams. Nice close travel. Competition is set up very well also - some teams are at the top right now because they have excellent locals but cycles happen and the other teams will rise soon enough. SVHL is not a super high paying league - it’s right in the middle - it’s good competitive hockey with a good mix of locals. It’s the type of hockey Kenaston, Davidson, and Craik are looking for. Not a super high paying league? Cmon now. Kenaston, Eston, Davidson, Craik, Dinsmore… all spend lots |
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 8:24:15 GMT -6
Post by hockeyguy1 on Mar 21, 2024 8:24:15 GMT -6
To me people can talk about new super leagues whatever but for an existing team to actively recruit and try to break up the long lake league is another thing. I think the other existing teams wouldn't be happy with that. This idea didn't originate from Watrous it was proposed a couple years ago and they wanted nothing to do with it . Now they decide it works for them and try to go forward with it .
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 8:30:05 GMT -6
Post by Grocery Stick on Mar 21, 2024 8:30:05 GMT -6
Can we all agree that money getting spent on senior hockey isn't going anywhere? To me there is no way to fix that, top players will continue to get top dollar, and teams will continue to spend. The Long Lake League makes no sense geographically. Most players in the league drive from Saskatoon, yet the league voted against Craik joining and said yes to teams like Wynyard, Foam Lake, and Wadena. Evidently the league lost the defending champion Davidson Cyclones because the SVHL made more send geographically. The Long Lake League has generally been known for playing week day games on a consistent bases, a reason why guys like playing in the league (some weekends off). But now teams are asking their players to drive from Saskatoon to Wynyard, Foam Lake, and Wadena during the week and go to work the next day. It's no secret that this league appears to be taking steps backwards year after year.
This potential new league is interesting. I think it allows for the main rivalries to stay, all the teams spend money, and all the teams are close enough from Saskatoon. Yes center to center there is long travel, but remember, most guys come from Saskatoon. I was also told that the import rule was 5. Wouldn't that mean that teams could be set up better for Provincial play and not forced to go A? It's easy to make a mockery of this, but at least someone is trying something. I Agree with the early comment that Jessie Mattson and the Winterhawks are one year to late, the SVHL is set up to darn good for teams to leave. There needs to be some incentive to join this league, what could that be? If you guys know what you're talking about, you know that the Long Lake Hockey League's days are numbered, and as someone who plays in the league, I wouldn't hate not going to those east teams any day of the week.
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 8:31:36 GMT -6
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Post by Old dog on Mar 21, 2024 8:31:36 GMT -6
Kenaston must be getting some players at low pay most of their roster would get $500 a game in the llhl .
Maybe llhl does east west divisions ? Flip Leroy and lanigan from east to west each year ? Too bad Davidson left as they were always real good. I know travel is a big issue but in the llhl this year wadena foam lake and wynyard were the best teams. Pay more for the inconvenience of travel ? Harder to find top end guys too
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 8:39:41 GMT -6
Post by Milky Way on Mar 21, 2024 8:39:41 GMT -6
Kenaston must be getting some players at low pay most of their roster would get $500 a game in the llhl . Maybe llhl does east west divisions ? Flip Leroy and lanigan from east to west each year ? Too bad Davidson left as they were always real good. I know travel is a big issue but in the llhl this year wadena foam lake and wynyard were the best teams. Pay more for the inconvenience of travel ? Harder to find top end guys too Wasn't there talk somewhere on this forum that Watrous was trying to poach Kenaston's players with money this summer? Maybe loyalty isn't dead and money doesn't rule the senior hockey world. Just shows you, build a winning culture and teams will want to play for you. Not sure you need a new league to develop those qualities. |
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 8:41:30 GMT -6
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Post by Yeppers on Mar 21, 2024 8:41:30 GMT -6
This idea is one year too late. SVHL is set up just about perfectly for all these teams. Nice close travel. Competition is set up very well also - some teams are at the top right now because they have excellent locals but cycles happen and the other teams will rise soon enough. SVHL is not a super high paying league - it’s right in the middle - it’s good competitive hockey with a good mix of locals. It’s the type of hockey Kenaston, Davidson, and Craik are looking for. Not a super high paying league? Cmon now. Kenaston, Eston, Davidson, Craik, Dinsmore… all spend lots These are all small centres that can’t afford to pay the money places like Wynyard/Watrous/Lumsden/Balgonie can. Kenaston/Craik/Dinsmore only have around 750 people in the 3 towns combined. Except for Kenaston most of the SVHL imports are Junior B or SJHL. |
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 8:57:51 GMT -6
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Post by Old balls on Mar 21, 2024 8:57:51 GMT -6
Watrous, Leroy, Lanigan, Drake, Davidson, Kenaston, Rosetown, Loreburn,, Craik and Outlook. Says Central Bitte and Delisle are “options” Can confirm that not all teams on this list got an email. A couple years ago Craik approached a few teams about a new league that went nowhere. |
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Watrous
Mar 21, 2024 9:30:34 GMT -6
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Post by Gunit on Mar 21, 2024 9:30:34 GMT -6
Watrous, Leroy, Lanigan, Drake, Davidson, Kenaston, Rosetown, Loreburn,, Craik and Outlook. Says Central Bitte and Delisle are “options” Can confirm that not all teams on this list got an email. A couple years ago Craik approached a few teams about a new league that went nowhere. I heard that as well. Just saying those were the teams on the list. |
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