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Post by zambonidriver on Feb 15, 2023 17:17:46 GMT -6
was talking to a buddy that is an exec member on a Big Six team and he said that Hockey Sask has sent out a survey regarding proposed changes to import rules for next year. they cited that out of 97 teams only 42% entered provincials.
the are proposing the following changes:
Teams in B provs to be allowed 5 imports
Teams in C & D provs to be allowed 4 imports
then they asked about dropping the "non-import" status for players that have played 3 years with the same team.
also proposing to increase roster size to 30 citing that there were teams adding and dropping players almost weekly.
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Post by zambonidriver on Feb 15, 2023 17:18:16 GMT -6
I'm trying to get screenshots of the actual survey
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Post by johnnywhitehog on Feb 15, 2023 18:02:30 GMT -6
After 3 years an import would then be considered a local?
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Post by Gunit on Feb 15, 2023 18:09:32 GMT -6
After 3 years an import would then be considered a local? Sounds like not. If adopted that would mean that in C and D there would be less “imports” but you don’t have to wait until the 4th season to add the 4th guy. |
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Post by zambonidriver on Feb 15, 2023 18:10:34 GMT -6
After 3 years an import would then be considered a local? the current rule for provincials is that teams are allowed 2 "non-imports" they are defined as a player that has played 3 consecutive years for the same team. Basically they are thinking to eliminate this and just add 2 more import spots for B, but C&D with a total of 4 import spots you could potentially have to drop a guy. because if in the past you had guys that have played for 3 years and in their 4th year under these new rules they'd still be imports for provincials instead of classified as non imports |
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Post by zambonidriver on Feb 15, 2023 18:11:25 GMT -6
After 3 years an import would then be considered a local? Sounds like not. If adopted that would mean that in C and D there would be less “imports” but you don’t have to wait until the 4th season to add the 4th guy. Its a bit of a compromise... but honestly I like it better... |
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Post by Gunit on Feb 15, 2023 18:23:01 GMT -6
Sounds like not. If adopted that would mean that in C and D there would be less “imports” but you don’t have to wait until the 4th season to add the 4th guy. Its a bit of a compromise... but honestly I like it better... Personally I don’t think the changes, as proposed, will see a discernible change to entries. Maybe if the non imports were still allowed it might. Or if you could have non elite imports included in some way, shape, or form you would see an increase in entrants. |
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Post by rr11 on Feb 15, 2023 19:13:09 GMT -6
was talking to a buddy that is an exec member on a Big Six team and he said that Hockey Sask has sent out a survey regarding proposed changes to import rules for next year. they cited that out of 97 teams only 42% entered provincials. the are proposing the following changes: Teams in B provs to be allowed 5 imports Teams in C & D provs to be allowed 4 imports then they asked about dropping the "non-import" status for players that have played 3 years with the same team. also proposing to increase roster size to 30 citing that there were teams adding and dropping players almost weekly. It'll be interesting to see the survey results. Having said that...I have not heard a compelling reason to consider these import changes. Is the reason strictly to try increase number of senior teams entering SHA? If so, these proposed changes as I see it won't dramatically increase teams. The current rules are such that more teams are able to enter yet the number of teams entering has been decreasing over the last 15 years when the population/import rules were more restrictive back then (AAA and A the exception of course). SVHL, LLHL, SWHL, QVHHL and Big 6 will continue to supply the vast majority of teams entering. New leagues who promote more local players such as SPHL, TRHL, SAHL, WHL only have a select few that enter. You also see teams who used to always enter such as Shellbrook, Hague, Shaunavon, Gull Lake, Tisdale, Esterhazy, Bruno, Dalmeny, Waldheim no longer enter. Provincials are important to about 50% of the teams...the rest of the teams they just don't care or consider it the be all end all. They're more interested in sustainability and a place for locals to play helping the rink stay open. |
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Post by skipbayless on Feb 16, 2023 3:14:22 GMT -6
Don't see any reason to change from the current system, all this will do is force 20 teams to enter B instead. As it stands I can count at least 10 or so teams that should have entered but didn't for...reasons? The other 30 teams either have no intentions of entering or are just straight up not nearly good enough regardless. I also still like the 3 year non-import spot, rewards teams and players for good management and loyalty.
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Post by zambonidriver on Feb 16, 2023 9:25:23 GMT -6
I think it will allow more teams to feel like they can compete in B, which isn't a bad thing. and for the teams that are C & D most of them will end up with an import. the survey mentioned that their wasn't near as many exceptions on rosters as in the past..
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Post by hugehorn on Feb 16, 2023 9:27:50 GMT -6
A - unlimited
B - 5 imports (0 non)
C/D - 4 imports (0 non)
I like it. Will push some of the stronger C/D teams up to B (a good thing - B bracket has lowest # of entries), and give way to some new entries/contenders in C/D.
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Post by oldchicken on Feb 16, 2023 9:30:43 GMT -6
It should just be straight 5 imports for B, C and D. Get rid of the non-import status as players jump around and follow the money regardless of how long they've been with a team. That way teams don't have to drop an import to enter provincials if their population falls into the C or D bracket (exception of LLHL where they run more imports) otherwise the C and D bracket will only have 2 or 3 teams with the rest entering in A and B
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Post by Longlakefan on Feb 16, 2023 11:03:55 GMT -6
I think adding more imports lowers the number of entries made as teams will then combine with another closer team to make the “better” team inside the rules. Seeing a lot more teams combining now as it is but would be even more if you can take the imports with you as well
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Post by hugehorn on Feb 16, 2023 15:43:04 GMT -6
I think adding more imports lowers the number of entries made as teams will then combine with another closer team to make the “better” team inside the rules. Seeing a lot more teams combining now as it is but would be even more if you can take the imports with you as well They aren't actually adding more though in what they've proposed. Current system: A - unlimited B/C/D - 3 imports + 2 non-imports Proposed system: A - unlimited B - 5 imports + 0 non-imports C/D - 4 imports + 0 non-imports |
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Post by zambonidriver on Feb 17, 2023 14:25:43 GMT -6
kind of surprised, i thought more folks would vote on this.
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