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Post by zambonidriver on Feb 17, 2023 8:35:03 GMT -6
so you have a losing team and an empty barn? where you getting the funds to pay big money? Its not like Senior hockey clubs can go and get a big line of credit. Its def. a slippery slope, the LLHL is a great example of that... teams are paying more and more each year to keep up with the other teams that are spending more and more each year. Drake loses out 1 round of playoffs, and if they don't get past kindersley thats a huge hit... those later rounds are where you make your money for the next year. Wynyard is down in their series to Wadena in playoffs, same with Leroy. they don't make deep runs i'm sure that could impact plans for the following year. This is a fair point, but are you telling me Wadena and Davidson aren't paying out the big bucks either? Lots of hockey to be played yet, one game out of a 5 game series is far from over either way. Oh i'm sure every team in the LLHL paying out quite a bit, was just using Wynyard as an example cause they brought in that package of 4 CIS guys that shopped themselves all over, and it's been all over the league about how much shynkaruk, Kehoe & Leedahl are getting paid in Leroy. And yes for sure, its only game 1 as well, was just pointing out that these teams all have plans on going deep in provs and playoffs and its needed in order to be sustainable. an early round exit in one or both can have a big impact. Its realistic to play between 25-30 games between league an provs, 2K a game is 60K a year. I've been to a game in nearly every barn in LLHL this year... i've yet to see a regular season game with over 150 people (based on the eye test) at it and some games where they were lucky to have 50-75 fans there... so your losing money big time for those games.. you need to get go semi finals in provs and league at a bare minimum to start making money at those games. |
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Post by Gunit on Feb 17, 2023 9:29:42 GMT -6
This is a fair point, but are you telling me Wadena and Davidson aren't paying out the big bucks either? Lots of hockey to be played yet, one game out of a 5 game series is far from over either way. Oh i'm sure every team in the LLHL paying out quite a bit, was just using Wynyard as an example cause they brought in that package of 4 CIS guys that shopped themselves all over, and it's been all over the league about how much shynkaruk, Kehoe & Leedahl are getting paid in Leroy. And yes for sure, its only game 1 as well, was just pointing out that these teams all have plans on going deep in provs and playoffs and its needed in order to be sustainable. an early round exit in one or both can have a big impact. Its realistic to play between 25-30 games between league an provs, 2K a game is 60K a year. I've been to a game in nearly every barn in LLHL this year... i've yet to see a regular season game with over 150 people (based on the eye test) at it and some games where they were lucky to have 50-75 fans there... so your losing money big time for those games.. you need to get go semi finals in provs and league at a bare minimum to start making money at those games. Have you been to Wadena? I heard they were getting solid crowds. This is just the grapevine though and just wondering based on your comment regarding numbers. |
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Post by zambonidriver on Feb 17, 2023 9:36:31 GMT -6
Oh i'm sure every team in the LLHL paying out quite a bit, was just using Wynyard as an example cause they brought in that package of 4 CIS guys that shopped themselves all over, and it's been all over the league about how much shynkaruk, Kehoe & Leedahl are getting paid in Leroy. And yes for sure, its only game 1 as well, was just pointing out that these teams all have plans on going deep in provs and playoffs and its needed in order to be sustainable. an early round exit in one or both can have a big impact. Its realistic to play between 25-30 games between league an provs, 2K a game is 60K a year. I've been to a game in nearly every barn in LLHL this year... i've yet to see a regular season game with over 150 people (based on the eye test) at it and some games where they were lucky to have 50-75 fans there... so your losing money big time for those games.. you need to get go semi finals in provs and league at a bare minimum to start making money at those games. Have you been to Wadena? I heard they were getting solid crowds. This is just the grapevine though and just wondering based on your comment regarding numbers. was there earlier this year and it wasn't a big crowd. But only been to one game. have a few connections in most of the other towns and been getting told what i just shared about low numbers. |
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Post by MathGuy on Feb 17, 2023 9:37:56 GMT -6
This is a fair point, but are you telling me Wadena and Davidson aren't paying out the big bucks either? Lots of hockey to be played yet, one game out of a 5 game series is far from over either way. Oh i'm sure every team in the LLHL paying out quite a bit, was just using Wynyard as an example cause they brought in that package of 4 CIS guys that shopped themselves all over, and it's been all over the league about how much shynkaruk, Kehoe & Leedahl are getting paid in Leroy. And yes for sure, its only game 1 as well, was just pointing out that these teams all have plans on going deep in provs and playoffs and its needed in order to be sustainable. an early round exit in one or both can have a big impact. Its realistic to play between 25-30 games between league an provs, 2K a game is 60K a year. I've been to a game in nearly every barn in LLHL this year... i've yet to see a regular season game with over 150 people (based on the eye test) at it and some games where they were lucky to have 50-75 fans there... so your losing money big time for those games.. you need to get go semi finals in provs and league at a bare minimum to start making money at those games. 2K is probably near the bottom of the league for payroll if i were to guess. Betting average is closer to 3K, and with provincial adds 4-5K depending on how many guys get picked up. I can't see it being sustainable for 90% of the teams in the league |
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Post by Nucks on Feb 17, 2023 9:42:00 GMT -6
I find it humorous that people, with obviously no part in the decision making process, like to say "if I were in charge we would never pay that much for any player". Well that may or may not be true but, and this is a bigger butt than Kim Kardashian, you would be amazed at how much your tolerance for spending would increase when you have nothing but losing teams and an empty barn.  so you have a losing team and an empty barn? where you getting the funds to pay big money? Its not like Senior hockey clubs can go and get a big line of credit. Its def. a slippery slope, the LLHL is a great example of that... teams are paying more and more each year to keep up with the other teams that are spending more and more each year. Drake loses out 1 round of playoffs, and if they don't get past kindersley thats a huge hit... those later rounds are where you make your money for the next year. Wynyard is down in their series to Wadena in playoffs, same with Leroy. they don't make deep runs i'm sure that could impact plans for the following year. A 50k Calcutta definitely doesn't hurt Drake. Lots of families in the area really supporting the team and the town helps by giving out tax receipts. |
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Post by zambonidriver on Feb 17, 2023 9:51:05 GMT -6
so you have a losing team and an empty barn? where you getting the funds to pay big money? Its not like Senior hockey clubs can go and get a big line of credit. Its def. a slippery slope, the LLHL is a great example of that... teams are paying more and more each year to keep up with the other teams that are spending more and more each year. Drake loses out 1 round of playoffs, and if they don't get past kindersley thats a huge hit... those later rounds are where you make your money for the next year. Wynyard is down in their series to Wadena in playoffs, same with Leroy. they don't make deep runs i'm sure that could impact plans for the following year. A 50k Calcutta definitely doesn't hurt Drake. Lots of families in the area really supporting the team and the town helps by giving out tax receipts. Shit that has to be their best one yet! They always have huge numbers for their calcutta which obviously helps a ton. Not sure how you can give out tax receipts on that though... either way props to the community. But this proves my point, you have to fundraise like crazy in order to sustain these types of payroll year over year. I'd guess most teams need to fundraise between 20-40K per year outside of gate and 50/50 revenue to keep the team going. |
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Post by Tax Guy on Feb 17, 2023 9:56:09 GMT -6
so you have a losing team and an empty barn? where you getting the funds to pay big money? Its not like Senior hockey clubs can go and get a big line of credit. Its def. a slippery slope, the LLHL is a great example of that... teams are paying more and more each year to keep up with the other teams that are spending more and more each year. Drake loses out 1 round of playoffs, and if they don't get past kindersley thats a huge hit... those later rounds are where you make your money for the next year. Wynyard is down in their series to Wadena in playoffs, same with Leroy. they don't make deep runs i'm sure that could impact plans for the following year. A 50k Calcutta definitely doesn't hurt Drake. Lots of families in the area really supporting the team and the town helps by giving out tax receipts. Tax reciepts....On gambling......I'm sure the CRA loves that...... |
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Post by Gunit on Feb 17, 2023 10:00:25 GMT -6
“Donation”
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Post by digger99 on Feb 17, 2023 10:36:39 GMT -6
A 50k Calcutta definitely doesn't hurt Drake. Lots of families in the area really supporting the team and the town helps by giving out tax receipts. Tax reciepts....On gambling......I'm sure the CRA loves that...... “Advertising” |
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Post by zambonidriver on Feb 17, 2023 11:40:30 GMT -6
LMao, i know for a fact that you can't be doing that "legally". anyways... carry on lol
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Post by 80shawk on Feb 17, 2023 12:20:13 GMT -6
casual labour is always a "good writeoff" for our farmer friends lol
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Post by Tax Guy on Feb 17, 2023 13:31:58 GMT -6
casual labour is always a "good writeoff" for our farmer friends lol many ways for a business or farm to "write it off" and take the audit risk on there end... which is why its surprising the town/village would take on the risk with giving out reciepts as (assuming) charitable donations... |
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Post by digger99 on Feb 17, 2023 14:05:48 GMT -6
casual labour is always a "good writeoff" for our farmer friends lol many ways for a business or farm to "write it off" and take the audit risk on there end... which is why its surprising the town/village would take on the risk with giving out reciepts as (assuming) charitable donations... Create an account Taxguy.. then people might listen to you. |
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Post by Tax Guy on Feb 17, 2023 14:16:07 GMT -6
many ways for a business or farm to "write it off" and take the audit risk on there end... which is why its surprising the town/village would take on the risk with giving out reciepts as (assuming) charitable donations... Create an account Taxguy.. then people might listen to you. Not sure how having an account would change anything... seems like the posts all show up with or without an account. Hoping there isn't that many tax reciept / related questions that an account would really be justified. |
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Post by digger999 on Feb 17, 2023 14:28:23 GMT -6
many ways for a business or farm to "write it off" and take the audit risk on there end... which is why its surprising the town/village would take on the risk with giving out reciepts as (assuming) charitable donations... Create an account Taxguy.. then people might listen to you. Lol |
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