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Post by RoadBeers on Mar 12, 2023 22:08:49 GMT -6
Wadena V Davidson in the league final
Wynyard V Drake in Provincial A
While provincial rosters are bolstered up for the run you have to recognise the power this league has and the entertainment they have given us all year.
Some thoughts since it’s almost time to get the clubs out.
1. Wadena should have gone A in provs, you have the talent and budget for up the A level to where I’d argue they belong and compete. I hope they bring that banner back to pad the LL resume/reputation.
2. Leroy Braves are the LeRoy what ifs, a little inconsistent to be a great team but also good. Their losses to Edam were largely self inflicted from turnovers and giving up goals on your own power play. But even throughout the season they were so good but often fell just short.
3. Wynyard has one of the best futures in the league
4. Drake is nearing the end of their time on top. The skill level between league/prov teams is concerning.
5. Davidson is consistent, pretty easy to know they were going to be consistent every game.
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Post by distantfan on Mar 13, 2023 7:07:19 GMT -6
How long until Lanigan and Watrous get back on track? Any idea what they have for young locals coming up to support their programs? What impact (if any) will the new Jansen mine have?
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Post by RoadBeers on Mar 13, 2023 7:26:32 GMT -6
How long until Lanigan and Watrous get back on track? Any idea what they have for young locals coming up to support their programs? What impact (if any) will the new Jansen mine have? Looking at their Bantam and Midget teams it doesn’t look good. Lanigan is last in The league and watrous is in bottom half. However Muenster and Lanigan are currently in the C provincial semi finals (Midget C). So there is some talent around with Muenster and Lanigan- maybe that’s good for Lanigan. Combine that with the largest potash mine in the world that is encouraging for Lanigan. Watrous is on dry pasture for a while I think. Their minor hockey isn’t great, but who knows what happens. |
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Post by LLHL INSIDEERRRRR on Mar 13, 2023 9:18:20 GMT -6
Wadena V Davidson in the league final Wynyard V Drake in Provincial A While provincial rosters are bolstered up for the run you have to recognise the power this league has and the entertainment they have given us all year. Some thoughts since it’s almost time to get the clubs out. 1. Wadena should have gone A in provs, you have the talent and budget for up the A level to where I’d argue they belong and compete. I hope they bring that banner back to pad the LL resume/reputation. 2. Leroy Braves are the LeRoy what ifs, a little inconsistent to be a great team but also good. Their losses to Edam were largely self inflicted from turnovers and giving up goals on your own power play. But even throughout the season they were so good but often fell just short. 3. Wynyard has one of the best futures in the league 4. Drake is nearing the end of their time on top. The skill level between league/prov teams is concerning. 5. Davidson is consistent, pretty easy to know they were going to be consistent every game. Wadena is an older roster - and will need to replace some guys in the near future... Hobbins, Dyck, Odelein all will be shutting it down soon. if not after this year. Nothing like going out as prov champs.. if they can get good replacements then ok... Leroy - goes as far as South 20 Dodge and MaGrath Farms bankroll with take them. how many actual leroy folks are playing on that team? Top end talent is good but apparently like to lose their shit when the going gets tough. Wynyard - has a solid team, but i heard that Connor and Declan Hobbs are headed that way next year so who of the 4pack of huskies are they cutting loose? Having the raymore boys as a solid 2nd line helps with depth. Either way will be a very solid team moving forward. Drake - have a strong core group, but that team folds tent when Cam Blair hangs them up. Johnson & Lawrence are both exceptions now so should create more room for 2 more imports. Deep prov and league run last year, and another run to the A final this year should help bankroll more guys. Davidson - has some older vets, but also a good mix of younger guys. solid goaltending and defence is there. Always in the mix as a good team. Watrous - decent start with johnson and smith and dmyterko in net. also hearing the klassen brothers will be playing next year, but need to add way more to be competitive. Lanigan - nothing good to report here... also heard that the Jansen Jets are trying to fire up for next winter, how many locals from lanigan or kids out that way does that pull from the team? Foam Lake - top line is aces, and Leach is excellent on the back end. gets a little thin after that. Cant imagine the standings looking much different next year than they were this year. |
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Post by coldpints on Mar 13, 2023 10:27:32 GMT -6
Wadena V Davidson in the league final Wynyard V Drake in Provincial A While provincial rosters are bolstered up for the run you have to recognise the power this league has and the entertainment they have given us all year. Some thoughts since it’s almost time to get the clubs out. 1. Wadena should have gone A in provs, you have the talent and budget for up the A level to where I’d argue they belong and compete. I hope they bring that banner back to pad the LL resume/reputation. 2. Leroy Braves are the LeRoy what ifs, a little inconsistent to be a great team but also good. Their losses to Edam were largely self inflicted from turnovers and giving up goals on your own power play. But even throughout the season they were so good but often fell just short. 3. Wynyard has one of the best futures in the league 4. Drake is nearing the end of their time on top. The skill level between league/prov teams is concerning. 5. Davidson is consistent, pretty easy to know they were going to be consistent every game. Wadena is an older roster - and will need to replace some guys in the near future... Hobbins, Dyck, Odelein all will be shutting it down soon. if not after this year. Nothing like going out as prov champs.. if they can get good replacements then ok... Leroy - goes as far as South 20 Dodge and MaGrath Farms bankroll with take them. how many actual leroy folks are playing on that team? Top end talent is good but apparently like to lose their shit when the going gets tough. Wynyard - has a solid team, but i heard that Connor and Declan Hobbs are headed that way next year so who of the 4pack of huskies are they cutting loose? Having the raymore boys as a solid 2nd line helps with depth. Either way will be a very solid team moving forward. Drake - have a strong core group, but that team folds tent when Cam Blair hangs them up. Johnson & Lawrence are both exceptions now so should create more room for 2 more imports. Deep prov and league run last year, and another run to the A final this year should help bankroll more guys. Davidson - has some older vets, but also a good mix of younger guys. solid goaltending and defence is there. Always in the mix as a good team. Watrous - decent start with johnson and smith and dmyterko in net. also hearing the klassen brothers will be playing next year, but need to add way more to be competitive. Lanigan - nothing good to report here... also heard that the Jansen Jets are trying to fire up for next winter, how many locals from lanigan or kids out that way does that pull from the team? Foam Lake - top line is aces, and Leach is excellent on the back end. gets a little thin after that. Cant imagine the standings looking much different next year than they were this year. Best insider in the league… Leach doesn’t play on Foam Lake anymore. |
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Post by Gunit on Mar 13, 2023 10:37:25 GMT -6
Wadena is an older roster - and will need to replace some guys in the near future... Hobbins, Dyck, Odelein all will be shutting it down soon. if not after this year. Nothing like going out as prov champs.. if they can get good replacements then ok... Leroy - goes as far as South 20 Dodge and MaGrath Farms bankroll with take them. how many actual leroy folks are playing on that team? Top end talent is good but apparently like to lose their shit when the going gets tough. Wynyard - has a solid team, but i heard that Connor and Declan Hobbs are headed that way next year so who of the 4pack of huskies are they cutting loose? Having the raymore boys as a solid 2nd line helps with depth. Either way will be a very solid team moving forward. Drake - have a strong core group, but that team folds tent when Cam Blair hangs them up. Johnson & Lawrence are both exceptions now so should create more room for 2 more imports. Deep prov and league run last year, and another run to the A final this year should help bankroll more guys. Davidson - has some older vets, but also a good mix of younger guys. solid goaltending and defence is there. Always in the mix as a good team. Watrous - decent start with johnson and smith and dmyterko in net. also hearing the klassen brothers will be playing next year, but need to add way more to be competitive. Lanigan - nothing good to report here... also heard that the Jansen Jets are trying to fire up for next winter, how many locals from lanigan or kids out that way does that pull from the team? Foam Lake - top line is aces, and Leach is excellent on the back end. gets a little thin after that. Cant imagine the standings looking much different next year than they were this year. Best insider in the league… Leach doesn’t play on Foam Lake anymore. In his defence it’s only been 3 years 😂 |
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Post by cheeseburger on Mar 13, 2023 11:26:31 GMT -6
With Jansen supposedly firing up, guaranteed 3/4 of the locals from lanigan go there. Why would any local stay when they sit on bench for most of the game when you can go go jansen and get way more playing time. Unfortunately pirates have burned too many bridges with that situation. As far as local talent goes, I believe kylynn Olafson is playing with flin flon right now but that’s about it
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Post by ridinpine on Mar 13, 2023 11:43:14 GMT -6
With Jansen supposedly firing up, guaranteed 3/4 of the locals from lanigan go there. Why would any local stay when they sit on bench for most of the game when you can go go jansen and get way more playing time. Unfortunately pirates have burned too many bridges with that situation. As far as local talent goes, I believe kylynn Olafson is playing with flin flon right now but that’s about it Sad reality is with the structure of the league (up to 11 imports) that most of the local Lanigan guys can't compete in the LLHL anyways. Its probably better for hockey in the town if Jansen does get going again. Give those guys a place to play and get more ice time. The trend of the LLHL leading up to 11 imports to me is the bigger issue. Look at the non import rule. It started as a way to help teams without local players fill their rosters with decent players, but guys who wouldn't bump locals. But every year someone at the league meetings wants to increase the minimum jr games until now it's at 80 games. There are some very good hockey players who have played less than 80 games of jr A. In my opinion that rule needs to be rolled right back to 20 games or so. Every team in the league has a good line or two, depending on how they use their import spots. Davidson and Wadena are in the finals because they have very good locals. Not every year is every small town going to have a group of locals who played junior A hockey. Do you think the LLHL should look at reforming the import rules, or do teams just play as many imports as they can and hope for the best until a good crop of jr locals show up? |
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Post by zambonidriver on Mar 13, 2023 12:18:11 GMT -6
With Jansen supposedly firing up, guaranteed 3/4 of the locals from lanigan go there. Why would any local stay when they sit on bench for most of the game when you can go go jansen and get way more playing time. Unfortunately pirates have burned too many bridges with that situation. As far as local talent goes, I believe kylynn Olafson is playing with flin flon right now but that’s about it Sad reality is with the structure of the league (up to 11 imports) that most of the local Lanigan guys can't compete in the LLHL anyways. Its probably better for hockey in the town if Jansen does get going again. Give those guys a place to play and get more ice time. The trend of the LLHL leading up to 11 imports to me is the bigger issue. Look at the non import rule. It started as a way to help teams without local players fill their rosters with decent players, but guys who wouldn't bump locals. But every year someone at the league meetings wants to increase the minimum jr games until now it's at 80 games. There are some very good hockey players who have played less than 80 games of jr A. In my opinion that rule needs to be rolled right back to 20 games or so. Every team in the league has a good line or two, depending on how they use their import spots. Davidson and Wadena are in the finals because they have very good locals. Not every year is every small town going to have a group of locals who played junior A hockey. Do you think the LLHL should look at reforming the import rules, or do teams just play as many imports as they can and hope for the best until a good crop of jr locals show up? I don't think you can reform at this point, Leroy would likely fold, would seriously hurt Drake, Lanigan and Watrous would just be super weak. With every team using most of those spots up how do you change it? This is what the league has let happen and now they have to live with it. and i don't think you'd get any exec to vote in favor of taking away spots. |
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Post by cheeseburger on Mar 13, 2023 13:17:43 GMT -6
I agree with ridinpine about the rule being rolled back to 20. As for teams not finding enough players. Maybe the league needs to give
players who have played AAA and lower non import status especially kids from humboldt, Saskatoon etc. that would solve a lot of teams issues with having full rosters. Yes a few of us call it the super league but how many more years until it ends up like the fort Carlton? I think change needs to be done sooner or later. Maybe adopt something like what the svhl has done with only five imports? Some one correct me if I’m wrong there.
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Post by zambonidriver on Mar 13, 2023 13:34:26 GMT -6
I agree with ridinpine about the rule being rolled back to 20. As for teams not finding enough players. Maybe the league needs to give players who have played AAA and lower non import status especially kids from humboldt, Saskatoon etc. that would solve a lot of teams issues with having full rosters. Yes a few of us call it the super league but how many more years until it ends up like the fort Carlton? I think change needs to be done sooner or later. Maybe adopt something like what the svhl has done with only five imports? Some one correct me if I’m wrong there. and before the fort carlton the ole Wild Goose league... so your saying drop population rules in the LLHL? and if you've played AAA midget or lower you are considered a local, even if your from Humboldt saskatoon etc? and 5 imports and keep the exceptions? or drop them to? |
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Post by digger99 on Mar 13, 2023 14:14:02 GMT -6
There’s not a team in the league right now that has the maximum of 11 imports. It’s possible to get there but it takes 4 years.
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Post by zambonidriver on Mar 13, 2023 15:03:30 GMT -6
There’s not a team in the league right now that has the maximum of 11 imports. It’s possible to get there but it takes 4 years. Drake can next year, Johnson, and Lawrence are both on year 3 (according to elite prospects) and stumborg alreadys is. Also wonder how the covid year works? do those 3 games count as a year? i'm assuming so, but have no idea. |
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Post by EndGame on Mar 13, 2023 15:07:24 GMT -6
I agree with ridinpine about the rule being rolled back to 20. As for teams not finding enough players. Maybe the league needs to give players who have played AAA and lower non import status especially kids from humboldt, Saskatoon etc. that would solve a lot of teams issues with having full rosters. Yes a few of us call it the super league but how many more years until it ends up like the fort Carlton? I think change needs to be done sooner or later. Maybe adopt something like what the svhl has done with only five imports? Some one correct me if I’m wrong there. and before the fort carlton the ole Wild Goose league... so your saying drop population rules in the LLHL? and if you've played AAA midget or lower you are considered a local, even if your from Humboldt saskatoon etc? and 5 imports and keep the exceptions? or drop them to? -no population limit - nobdy is even close to hitting 5000 as it is. -Drop the non elite games played to 20 Jr A and maybe even reduce the amount of spots down to 2 (most teams dont use all their spots anyways) -AAA midget or lower (no jr b) considered a local no matter where they are from. litterally bodies to fill a roster if needed. - imports to 5. no exception rule. currently can have 4 imports and 3 exceptions. - that puts the max number of elite/non elite imports to 7, with the option of finding some warm bodies from humboldt, saskatoon etc. to round out a roster if desperate. I agree that the talent level in the league is running away from what most towns local talent is, to the point where guys coming up dont even consider playing senior. If the league wants to survive for more than a couple more years i think they really gotta look at making some changes, even if it hurts competitiveness in the short term. |
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Post by ridinpine on Mar 13, 2023 15:18:43 GMT -6
and before the fort carlton the ole Wild Goose league... so your saying drop population rules in the LLHL? and if you've played AAA midget or lower you are considered a local, even if your from Humboldt saskatoon etc? and 5 imports and keep the exceptions? or drop them to? -no population limit - nobdy is even close to hitting 5000 as it is. -Drop the non elite games played to 20 Jr A and maybe even reduce the amount of spots down to 2 (most teams dont use all their spots anyways) -AAA midget or lower (no jr b) considered a local no matter where they are from. litterally bodies to fill a roster if needed. - imports to 5. no exception rule. currently can have 4 imports and 3 exceptions. - that puts the max number of elite/non elite imports to 7, with the option of finding some warm bodies from humboldt, saskatoon etc. to round out a roster if desperate. I agree that the talent level in the league is running away from what most towns local talent is, to the point where guys coming up dont even consider playing senior. If the league wants to survive for more than a couple more years i think they really gotta look at making some changes, even if it hurts competitiveness in the short term. I agree completely with everything except for the 5 imports. Keep exceptions and stay at 4 imports. There should be a reward for having a good program that people want to stay and play for year after year. |
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