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Post by Twins on Oct 30, 2024 13:13:34 GMT -6
okay, just wanted to clarify. In that case, I'm very much in agreeance. I think the only league in the province that calls locals with dub and over 50-60 games Jr a experience an import is the Twin Rivers. and to me that's ridiculous, you grow up in that town and your an import??? The reason for that was at the time you had Warman with a population of over 10,000 in with a bunch of towns between 500-1500. I’m not sure how many guys from Warman played in the dub or junior A but it would of been a lot more then towns like St.Louis or cudworth. |
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Post by zambonidriver on Oct 30, 2024 13:40:16 GMT -6
I think the only league in the province that calls locals with dub and over 50-60 games Jr a experience an import is the Twin Rivers. and to me that's ridiculous, you grow up in that town and your an import??? The reason for that was at the time you had Warman with a population of over 10,000 in with a bunch of towns between 500-1500. I’m not sure how many guys from Warman played in the dub or junior A but it would of been a lot more then towns like St.Louis or cudworth. I get that with Warman for sure. but aside from warman it shouldn't be like that. |
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Post by shweatyballs on Oct 31, 2024 8:31:00 GMT -6
I would like to see..
D 1-1000 .. 3 imports
C. 1000- 2000. 3 imports
B. 2000- 3000. 4 imports
A 3000- 10,000 unlimited imports
An import is a non local who has played junior A or better. ( elite)
And all non elites who have played on the same team for 3 or more consecutive years will be considered a local ( unlimited )
Any less than 3 consecutive years and the player will go against your import count of 3
I like the idea of non elites being counted as local because more often that not these players are just average joes looking to play hockey and don’t want any money. They party with the guys every weekend and are just one of the boys.
And any local who has played elite hockey is just a local as well.
I wouldn’t mind shrinking up the radius in which a town can pull players from.
With D and C having the same amount of imports they could still split these divisions in half by way of population.
The entire reason of separation of divisions is based of population of the community and these teams opportunity's to have a deeper pool of high quality players to choose from.
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Post by Mustard on Nov 16, 2024 14:30:58 GMT -6
Scrap population and imports entirely and make the categories solely based on JR or better experience players. And 3 divisions. No need for 4 with the amount of teams entering now a days.
Jr+ being considered someone that’s played 50+ junior A or higher caliber games.
C less than 3 JR+
B less than 6 JR+
A any amount of JR+
And if teams only have 5 JR+ guys but want to enter A for example, let them. Easiest format and best way to keep caliber of teams similar in each division.
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Post by hockeyguy1 on Nov 19, 2024 9:27:21 GMT -6
Couple issues with classifying provincials on # of jr players . When leagues have brought in the non elite import there guys that played a few games at a jr a or higher level why 50 games . There will be some who played 51 and then the fight is on. Also a guy that has played 10 years on a jr team and played jr a does he still count to that total. In what other league or sport do you put a limit on the amount of good players teams can have.
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Post by hugehorn on Nov 19, 2024 10:44:09 GMT -6
10yrs of junior hockey?
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Post by Lol on Nov 19, 2024 13:25:04 GMT -6
Assuming he meant 10 years of sr hockey. |
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Post by LLHL Fan on Nov 19, 2024 14:10:15 GMT -6
Scrap population and imports entirely and make the categories solely based on JR or better experience players. And 3 divisions. No need for 4 with the amount of teams entering now a days. Jr+ being considered someone that’s played 50+ junior A or higher caliber games. C less than 3 JR+ B less than 6 JR+ A any amount of JR+ And if teams only have 5 JR+ guys but want to enter A for example, let them. Easiest format and best way to keep caliber of teams similar in each division. all this does is penalize teams that have local talent that have played at a higher level. |
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Post by strainer12 on Nov 19, 2024 16:28:34 GMT -6
Scrap population and imports entirely and make the categories solely based on JR or better experience players. And 3 divisions. No need for 4 with the amount of teams entering now a days. Jr+ being considered someone that’s played 50+ junior A or higher caliber games. C less than 3 JR+ B less than 6 JR+ A any amount of JR+ And if teams only have 5 JR+ guys but want to enter A for example, let them. Easiest format and best way to keep caliber of teams similar in each division. all this does is penalize teams that have local talent that have played at a higher level. Not really, if those teams has a lot of local talent(6+), then they should be fine going A with some pickups. |
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Post by ppbluesfan24 on Nov 19, 2024 16:35:56 GMT -6
all this does is penalize teams that have local talent that have played at a higher level. Not really, if those teams has a lot of local talent(6+), then they should be fine going A with some pickups. A team shouldn't be forced to make pickups and go A just because they have good locals. |
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Post by strainer12 on Nov 19, 2024 16:50:57 GMT -6
Not really, if those teams has a lot of local talent(6+), then they should be fine going A with some pickups. A team shouldn't be forced to make pickups and go A just because they have good locals. What teams in B currently have more than 6 local players that played jr a or higher? Wilkie maybe? And that would be a pretty liberal use of the word local to count some of those guys, as a lot aren't actually from wilkie. Most teams with more than 6 junior players, are already going A as is. |
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Post by ppbluesfan24 on Nov 19, 2024 16:57:40 GMT -6
A team shouldn't be forced to make pickups and go A just because they have good locals. What teams in B currently have more than 6 local players that played jr a or higher? Wilkie maybe? And that would be a pretty liberal use of the word local to count some of those guys, as a lot aren't actually from wilkie. Most teams with more than 6 junior players, are already going A as is. Good point. I'd just prefer provincials to be strictly population based. If an elite rule would level the field and get more teams to enter, then I'd get on board. |
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Post by Rules on Nov 20, 2024 10:49:31 GMT -6
I think the only league in the province that calls locals with dub and over 50-60 games Jr a experience an import is the Twin Rivers. and to me that's ridiculous, you grow up in that town and your an import??? The reason for that was at the time you had Warman with a population of over 10,000 in with a bunch of towns between 500-1500. I’m not sure how many guys from Warman played in the dub or junior A but it would have been a lot more then towns like St.Louis or cudworth. I definitely think B needs to be adjusted, some good ideas in here. In my opinion the best route would be to keep A,B,C population based with elite rules, then have D be total 5 elites, I think this would make everyone happy and encourage a lot more teams to enter. |
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Post by Rules on Nov 20, 2024 10:50:44 GMT -6
The reason for that was at the time you had Warman with a population of over 10,000 in with a bunch of towns between 500-1500. I’m not sure how many guys from Warman played in the dub or junior A but it would have been a lot more then towns like St.Louis or cudworth. I definitely think B needs to be adjusted, some good ideas in here. In my opinion the best route would be to keep A,B,C population based with elite rules, then have D be total 5 elites, I think this would make everyone happy and encourage a lot more teams to enter. *Sorry I meant to say keep A,B,C population based WITHOUT elite rules. |
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