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Post by MapsGuy on Jan 29, 2024 14:03:18 GMT -6
Just saw the map of all the senior leagues and teams that was posted on the Monday nooners Twitter, gotta give credit to the guy who put it together, check the nooners Twitter for his profile. Here’s the link of the map for anyone curios t.co/csPXC2P5a1Anyways, looking at the map really makes me wonder about leagues and teams in the future. Mainly wondering if Jansen will try to join the long lake eventually. Also wonder if teams in the Sask prairie and Sask west will try to shuffle around, some teams like Edam, biggar, perdue etc. would make sense switching leagues. just food for thought |
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Post by ridinpine on Jan 29, 2024 14:43:14 GMT -6
Don't think Jansen will try to join LLHL unless the rules change. Their best locals came from Lanigan, who have struggled for years in the LLHL because of not enough top end local talent.
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Post by Speculator on Jan 29, 2024 15:33:19 GMT -6
This is 100% speculation with no actual facts to back it up. But I’ve heard that there are multiple teams wanting to join the twin rivers, maybe two of those teams are red berry and Jansen? Maybe redberry joins the west division and Jansen joins the east?
I’ve heard there are over half a dozen teams interested in joining the twin rivers, not sure if those are existing teams or potential new ones, maybe twin rivers splits into two divisions with no inter divisional play until playoffs, will be interesting to see if anything happens in the off season.
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Post by Ratrace on Jan 29, 2024 15:49:27 GMT -6
I can see other leagues looking to adapt their rules to something similar to twin rivers. I think the desire to be some big budget team with no locals on the team
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Post by Speculator on Jan 29, 2024 16:01:23 GMT -6
I can see other leagues looking to adapt their rules to something similar to twin rivers. I think the desire to be some big budget team with no locals on the team Yes, from what I hear lots of teams have the desire to be able to compete without breaking the bank. Twin rivers rules definitely do a good job of that, only problem is the rules can limit local talent if there are more than 4 local players with “elite” status. Maybe a rule limiting elite imports but allowing actual “elite” locals to not count would work, but like everything it would be tougher to enforce that with fake addresses and what not. |
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Post by ppbluesfan24 on Jan 29, 2024 16:19:04 GMT -6
Love this. Props to whoever took the time to make this
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Post by ridinpine on Jan 29, 2024 16:27:54 GMT -6
I can see other leagues looking to adapt their rules to something similar to twin rivers. I think the desire to be some big budget team with no locals on the team Yes, from what I hear lots of teams have the desire to be able to compete without breaking the bank. Twin rivers rules definitely do a good job of that, only problem is the rules can limit local talent if there are more than 4 local players with “elite” status. Maybe a rule limiting elite imports but allowing actual “elite” locals to not count would work, but like everything it would be tougher to enforce that with fake addresses and what not. I can see other leagues looking to adapt their rules to something similar to twin rivers. I think the desire to be some big budget team with no locals on the team Yes, from what I hear lots of teams have the desire to be able to compete without breaking the bank. Twin rivers rules definitely do a good job of that, only problem is the rules can limit local talent if there are more than 4 local players with “elite” status. Maybe a rule limiting elite imports but allowing actual “elite” locals to not count would work, but like everything it would be tougher to enforce that with fake addresses and what not. I think the TRHL rules are the best of all the leagues. I think the LLHL could just add a couple more elite spots to make the quality a bit higher if they wanted and then you also wouldn't have to worry about elite locals. Not too many teams have 6 or 7 local elites. |
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Post by cheeseburger on Jan 29, 2024 17:00:21 GMT -6
4 elite rule would be best, gives towns with some good junior locals to play there plus add a guy or two
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Post by rublind on Jan 29, 2024 23:35:22 GMT -6
It all goes in a cycle. Teams want to win. Payrolls sky rocket. The teams that struggle to continue this fold or leave to different leagues that are less competitive.
The twin rivers is the wheatland 2.0. At one point the wheatland was the biggest league in the province. Teams who want to keep local players but eventually start bringing in import players because naturally they are competitive and want to win and thus starts the cycle of teams folding or moving leagues all over again.
That cross roads league will see the same thing happen.
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Post by zambonidriver on Jan 30, 2024 9:05:30 GMT -6
It all goes in a cycle. Teams want to win. Payrolls sky rocket. The teams that struggle to continue this fold or leave to different leagues that are less competitive. The twin rivers is the wheatland 2.0. At one point the wheatland was the biggest league in the province. Teams who want to keep local players but eventually start bringing in import players because naturally they are competitive and want to win and thus starts the cycle of teams folding or moving leagues all over again. That cross roads league will see the same thing happen. This is exaclty it. anyone remember the wild goose? It was nuts. bottom line it comes down to the executive and the amount of work they are willing to do raising money. you also have cycles of good locals being around and then when they retire its a regression until more good locals come along. for certain leagues the majority of kids stepping out of midget aren't really good enough to play senior. and those ones that are were the kids that were top line players on their hometown or localish AA midget team... then they come to senior, sit on the 3rd-4th line, see very little ice, get fed up and quit. |
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Post by zambonidriver on Jan 30, 2024 9:08:07 GMT -6
4 elite rule would be best, gives towns with some good junior locals to play there plus add a guy or two 4 elites, and all hometown players regardless of where they played... |
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Post by soundsgood on Jan 30, 2024 15:34:14 GMT -6
4 elite rule would be best, gives towns with some good junior locals to play there plus add a guy or two 4 elites, and all hometown players regardless of where they played... I don't hate that. maybe let the goalie be a free elite spot as well, and shrink the radius to actual hometown players either currently living or played minor hockey in a smaller radius then the current 120km to cut down on the fake adresses. |
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Post by rr11 on Jan 30, 2024 17:16:27 GMT -6
4 elites, and all hometown players regardless of where they played... I don't hate that. maybe let the goalie be a free elite spot as well, and shrink the radius to actual hometown players either currently living or played minor hockey in a smaller radius then the current 120km to cut down on the fake adresses. The Wheatland had this rule regarding goalies, they weren't counted as an import during league play (is this still a rule?). Provincials of course a different matter. |
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Post by doncherry10 on Jan 30, 2024 17:47:39 GMT -6
I don't hate that. maybe let the goalie be a free elite spot as well, and shrink the radius to actual hometown players either currently living or played minor hockey in a smaller radius then the current 120km to cut down on the fake adresses. The Wheatland had this rule regarding goalies, they weren't counted as an import during league play (is this still a rule?). Provincials of course a different matter. I believe the wheatland still has this rule |
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Post by Speculator on Jan 31, 2024 10:10:58 GMT -6
4 elites, and all hometown players regardless of where they played... I don't hate that. maybe let the goalie be a free elite spot as well, and shrink the radius to actual hometown players either currently living or played minor hockey in a smaller radius then the current 120km to cut down on the fake adresses. I understand the desire for locals to play in their hometown, obviously that’s the whole point of senior hockey for most players and fans. But I think the twin rivers rules of allowing unlimited “none-elite” imports regardless of where they are from is what’s keeping the league alive. I know for a fact that if non elites had to be locals more then half the league would fold overnight, most teams are filled out by junior B, midget AA or even house league kids from the city and all over the province with no connection to the town, just guys wanting to play hockey. Allowing unlimited “none-elite” imports is the reason you don’t see as many short benches in the twin rivers. The sad truth is most of these towns don’t have much for minor hockey these days, smaller towns are lucky if they have a couple kids a year coming out of midget, nowhere near enough to put together a decent senior team anymore. |
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