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Post by hockeyguy1 on Dec 13, 2021 15:11:31 GMT -6
Here is a list of the past A champs if Wadena is going A and anyone thanks they have a chance to win with their league team and a goalie they are in for a rude awkening .
2019 Watrous Winterhawks
2018 Balgonie Bisons
2017 Bethune Bulldogs
2016 Bethune Bulldogs
2015 Lanigan Pirates
2014 Wynyard Monarchs
2013 Cupar Canucks
2012 Shellbrook Elks
2011 Balgonie Bisons
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Dec 13, 2021 15:27:53 GMT -6
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Post by Gunit on Dec 13, 2021 15:27:53 GMT -6
Here is a list of the past A champs if Wadena is going A and anyone thanks they have a chance to win with their league team and a goalie they are in for a rude awkening . 2019 Watrous Winterhawks 2018 Balgonie Bisons 2017 Bethune Bulldogs 2016 Bethune Bulldogs 2015 Lanigan Pirates 2014 Wynyard Monarchs 2013 Cupar Canucks 2012 Shellbrook Elks 2011 Balgonie Bisons yeah….that’s what I said. |
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Dec 13, 2021 18:32:23 GMT -6
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Post by Howsy on Dec 13, 2021 18:32:23 GMT -6
Go ahead and believe whatever you want but it will be proven again this year in provincials like every year. The Wheatland is not a competitive league compared to QVHL/LLHL/SVHL/SWHL. The only difference this year might be Wadena - having no competition this year will make it difficult when they hit provincials. Arguably Kenaston plays more weaker opponents than a team like Wadena. I’ll say this: if Wadena is in A, with their existing squad (plus the tender) I don’t think they win it. I definitely argue lol. If we’re talking the SVHL then Kinistino and Craik would be at the bottom with Delisle, Rosetown, and Lucky Lake. Kenaston, Eston, Kyle, Dinsmore, Loreburn, and Outlook would all be better than those 2 “top 3” Wheatland teams. |
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Dec 13, 2021 18:47:07 GMT -6
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Post by saskeasthockeyguy on Dec 13, 2021 18:47:07 GMT -6
1) Drake
2) Kenaston
3) Wilke
4) Milestone
5) Yellowgrass
6) Wadena
7) Grenfell
8) Cabri
9) Theodore
10) Foam Lake
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Dec 13, 2021 18:48:47 GMT -6
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Post by Gunit on Dec 13, 2021 18:48:47 GMT -6
Arguably Kenaston plays more weaker opponents than a team like Wadena. I’ll say this: if Wadena is in A, with their existing squad (plus the tender) I don’t think they win it. I definitely argue lol. If we’re talking the SVHL then Kinistino and Craik would be at the bottom with Delisle, Rosetown, and Lucky Lake. Kenaston, Eston, Kyle, Dinsmore, Loreburn, and Outlook would all be better than those 2 “top 3” Wheatland teams. you could argue that Kinistino and Craik are at eston, Kyle, Dinsmore, Loreburn or Outlooks Level. But the fact you lump them all together and compare Craik and Kinistino to Delisle and Rosetown shows your bias. Heck I don’t even care. Just calling a spade a spade. Purely from a talent perspective provincially you have Drake, Kenaston, Wilkie, Milestone, Balcarres. Just deep, deep teams. Wadena (presently without the goalie or Dyck) is probably in the next level with Foam Lake, Lumsden, Grenfell, Etc. |
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Post by saskeasthockeyguy on Dec 13, 2021 19:16:40 GMT -6
I definitely argue lol. If we’re talking the SVHL then Kinistino and Craik would be at the bottom with Delisle, Rosetown, and Lucky Lake. Kenaston, Eston, Kyle, Dinsmore, Loreburn, and Outlook would all be better than those 2 “top 3” Wheatland teams. you could argue that Kinistino and Craik are at eston, Kyle, Dinsmore, Loreburn or Outlooks Level. But the fact you lump them all together and compare Craik and Kinistino to Delisle and Rosetown shows your bias. Heck I don’t even care. Just calling a spade a spade. Purely from a talent perspective provincially you have Drake, Kenaston, Wilkie, Milestone, Balcarres. Just deep, deep teams. Wadena (presently without the goalie or Dyck) is probably in the next level with Foam Lake, Lumsden, Grenfell, Etc. Leagues With Most Provincial Championships (Last 10 Years) 1) LLHL - 10 2) SVHL - 7 2) QVHHL - 7 3) SWHL - 6 5) FCHL, THL(SEHL), WMHL - 2 each 8) SaskAlta, Independent (which one was Wilcox in?) - 1 each That makes 38… I’m not sure who I missed? |
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Dec 13, 2021 19:35:58 GMT -6
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Post by dufe92 on Dec 13, 2021 19:35:58 GMT -6
you could argue that Kinistino and Craik are at eston, Kyle, Dinsmore, Loreburn or Outlooks Level. But the fact you lump them all together and compare Craik and Kinistino to Delisle and Rosetown shows your bias. Heck I don’t even care. Just calling a spade a spade. Purely from a talent perspective provincially you have Drake, Kenaston, Wilkie, Milestone, Balcarres. Just deep, deep teams. Wadena (presently without the goalie or Dyck) is probably in the next level with Foam Lake, Lumsden, Grenfell, Etc. Leagues With Most Provincial Championships (Last 10 Years) 1) LLHL - 10 2) SVHL - 7 2) QVHHL - 7 3) SWHL - 6 5) FCHL, THL(SEHL), WMHL - 2 each 8) SaskAlta, Independent (which one was Wilcox in?) - 1 each That makes 38… I’m not sure who I missed? Kinistino and craik are right up there, Def not delisle level lol |
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Dec 13, 2021 19:53:48 GMT -6
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Post by Gunit on Dec 13, 2021 19:53:48 GMT -6
Leagues With Most Provincial Championships (Last 10 Years) 1) LLHL - 10 2) SVHL - 7 2) QVHHL - 7 3) SWHL - 6 5) FCHL, THL(SEHL), WMHL - 2 each 8) SaskAlta, Independent (which one was Wilcox in?) - 1 each That makes 38… I’m not sure who I missed? When it comes to prov titles Does which league they are in even matter? Has a team ever won with just their league team? teams routinely win C-D with their league teams. I love stats, thanks for showing the last 10 years. But, the team/league quality change and sometime drastically. Look at your team, who is left from their provincial title? Garbut and that’s it? |
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Dec 13, 2021 20:39:37 GMT -6
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Post by saskeasthockeyguy on Dec 13, 2021 20:39:37 GMT -6
When it comes to prov titles Does which league they are in even matter? Has a team ever won with just their league team? teams routinely win C-D with their league teams. I love stats, thanks for showing the last 10 years. But, the team/league quality change and sometime drastically. Look at your team, who is left from their provincial title? Garbut and that’s it? Yeah, the league talent can change drastically, but in general, you can see a trend. |
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Dec 13, 2021 20:41:03 GMT -6
Post by yardsale on Dec 13, 2021 20:41:03 GMT -6
The SVHL teams basically always go with their league teams. The Valley plays by SHA’s B-D import rule. 3 plus 2 naturalized. Every team abides by these rules. Any additions must adhere to the population guild line. There are often hometown/local players that don’t play much during the year that will play provincials (ie Shaye Stephenson in Outlook possibly this year). Wilkie and Macklin are two examples from the SWHL that do the same.
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Dec 13, 2021 21:54:48 GMT -6
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Post by Howsy on Dec 13, 2021 21:54:48 GMT -6
I definitely argue lol. If we’re talking the SVHL then Kinistino and Craik would be at the bottom with Delisle, Rosetown, and Lucky Lake. Kenaston, Eston, Kyle, Dinsmore, Loreburn, and Outlook would all be better than those 2 “top 3” Wheatland teams. you could argue that Kinistino and Craik are at eston, Kyle, Dinsmore, Loreburn or Outlooks Level. But the fact you lump them all together and compare Craik and Kinistino to Delisle and Rosetown shows your bias. Heck I don’t even care. Just calling a spade a spade. Purely from a talent perspective provincially you have Drake, Kenaston, Wilkie, Milestone, Balcarres. Just deep, deep teams. Wadena (presently without the goalie or Dyck) is probably in the next level with Foam Lake, Lumsden, Grenfell, Etc. No bias necessary. Just facts. My proof will come provincial time when Kinistino and Craik are non factors. 2 or 3 of Outlook, Loreburn, Dinsmore, Kyle, Eston will be playing for provincial championships. |
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Post by doncherry10 on Dec 13, 2021 22:12:28 GMT -6
you could argue that Kinistino and Craik are at eston, Kyle, Dinsmore, Loreburn or Outlooks Level. But the fact you lump them all together and compare Craik and Kinistino to Delisle and Rosetown shows your bias. Heck I don’t even care. Just calling a spade a spade. Purely from a talent perspective provincially you have Drake, Kenaston, Wilkie, Milestone, Balcarres. Just deep, deep teams. Wadena (presently without the goalie or Dyck) is probably in the next level with Foam Lake, Lumsden, Grenfell, Etc. No bias necessary. Just facts. My proof will come provincial time when Kinistino and Craik are non factors. 2 or 3 of Outlook, Loreburn, Dinsmore, Kyle, Eston will be playing for provincial championships. I definitely agree that Kinistino won’t be making a run to the provincial final without any additional pickups. Craik had a great chance of winning provincials before the covid shutdown but they aren’t as strong without Blair Jones. |
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Dec 13, 2021 22:25:53 GMT -6
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Post by Gunit on Dec 13, 2021 22:25:53 GMT -6
you could argue that Kinistino and Craik are at eston, Kyle, Dinsmore, Loreburn or Outlooks Level. But the fact you lump them all together and compare Craik and Kinistino to Delisle and Rosetown shows your bias. Heck I don’t even care. Just calling a spade a spade. Purely from a talent perspective provincially you have Drake, Kenaston, Wilkie, Milestone, Balcarres. Just deep, deep teams. Wadena (presently without the goalie or Dyck) is probably in the next level with Foam Lake, Lumsden, Grenfell, Etc. No bias necessary. Just facts. My proof will come provincial time when Kinistino and Craik are non factors. 2 or 3 of Outlook, Loreburn, Dinsmore, Kyle, Eston will be playing for provincial championships. If you say 3 I’ll take that bet. Purely because I like my odds. |
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Dec 13, 2021 23:04:18 GMT -6
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Post by Howsy on Dec 13, 2021 23:04:18 GMT -6
No bias necessary. Just facts. My proof will come provincial time when Kinistino and Craik are non factors. 2 or 3 of Outlook, Loreburn, Dinsmore, Kyle, Eston will be playing for provincial championships. If you say 3 I’ll take that bet. Purely because I like my odds. Ha. Not willing to dispute Craik and Kinistino will be non-factors eh? 3 is pushing it - 2 will make the semi-finals for sure. QV and LL still much stronger than SV and SW - just the fact of the matter. |
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Dec 13, 2021 23:24:24 GMT -6
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Post by Gunit on Dec 13, 2021 23:24:24 GMT -6
If you say 3 I’ll take that bet. Purely because I like my odds. Ha. Not willing to dispute Craik and Kinistino will be non-factors eh? 3 is pushing it - 2 will make the semi-finals for sure. QV and LL still much stronger than SV and SW - just the fact of the matter. Honestly I could care less how Kinistino and Craik do in provincials. I’m not the one saying they will for sure be in the finals. You went from 2-3 in the finals for sure to 2-3 in the semi finals really quick there. |
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